Good Insulation

[OiltoDiesel]

I am in the process of building a kiln and the best performing "safe" blanket is made by Thermal Ceramics, the makers of Triton Kaowool, and is known as Superwool 607 Max. This has a working temperature rating of 1260 degrees centigrade. Although this blanket is rated as safe, the dust it creates will still make you cough, so it is advisable to wear a proper respirator, not one of those rather ineffectual dust masks.

This works great for making a light weight kiln and I don't see why it couldn't be used to insulate a burner for our purpose. In fact, you can use this product to insulate a 55 gal drum and fire it to over 2500 degrees F using a propane burner.

Gary

[Oilguy]

How much does this blanket cost? how big is it?
Oilguy

[OiltoDiesel]

Oilguy - It comes in different sizes and thickness. This of course determines the price. I will get a complete breakdown of the prices. Maybe we should consider a group purchase to get the price as low as possible.

There is also a spray you put on top of the Superwool 607 Max that turns it into a hard surface. If you take a 55 gal drum and cut it down, put the Superwool 607 on the inside and the outside with the spray you would have one hell of a good furnace chamber you in my opinion. It would be so light you could easily move it from place to place.

I will post details on how to build the above in a couple of days.

Gary

[i_stripe]

Gary,
I'd really be interested in this. Could make my plant not only lighter, but a bit quicker and easier to get online. Got my tanks yesterday and hope to start welding in heating fins, etc. over the weekend. (If Honey Do's and Grandkids don't get in my way:D )
Joe

[rovingbenz]

Joe, The fishing boat supply oufits around you have it in stock. We called it rock wool and we had a rewetable fabric we wrapped around the outside to protect the wool. It's used on the dry exhaust pipes.
Ryan

[i_stripe]

Joe, The fishing boat supply oufits around you have it in stock. We called it rock wool and we had a rewetable fabric we wrapped around the outside to protect the wool. It's used on the dry exhaust pipes.
Ryan

Thanks, I'll check it out with them. However can this be used on the inside of the furnace?
Joe

[OiltoDiesel]

Thanks, I'll check it out with them. However can this be used on the inside of the furnace?
Joe


Joe,

The Thermal Ceramic's material is used on the inside and the outside. I will be posting a step by step procedure to build a small kiln this evening. Look at the kiln as nothing more than a furnace that can be regulated to temps from 0 deg F to extremely high temperatures. In the ceramic world we put clay in them to make pottery. You could just as easily put a container of oil in there and heat it to what ever temp you want, up to the max capability of the kiln, assuming the vessel holding the oil can withstand the heat. I am researching the possibility of making a ceramic container to hold the oil. After all, they use ceramic tiles to protect the Space Shuttle from extreme heat so I am sure ceramic can be used to hold oil at high temps.

The max temp you can obtain is dependant on several things beginning with the type of insulation you use and the heating source.


Gary

[rovingbenz]

Gary,
The rockwool is a ceramic. I think I remember the boxes being the brand you mentioned. I don't think the boat places will have the spray though. My thought is using it on the column to adj temps for bubbler plates. Give me a little fudge room if I get them too far apart.
Ryan

[OiltoDiesel]

Gary,
The rockwool is a ceramic. I think I remember the boxes being the brand you mentioned. I don't think the boat places will have the spray though. My thought is using it on the column to adj temps for bubbler plates. Give me a little fudge room if I get them too far apart.
Ryan


So, the Rockwool becomes ceramic after you fire it the first time? I've never used it before but I have seen it used in small glass kilns. It is a very hard shell. Do you have any prices for it?

Gary

[rovingbenz]

No No, It is like wool and stays that way. We would cut it just right to wrap it then tie it on with seizing wire then get the rewetable cloth wet and wrap it round and round like tape. When dry it's like a solid unit on the outside. If you have ever seen insulated steam pipes I've been told it's the same stuff. The exhaust pipe will glow red under heavy load and no problems.
Ryan

[OiltoDiesel]

How much does this blanket cost? how big is it?
Oilguy


Sorry for the delay in getting you this information. I found this on ebay:

http://search.ebay.com/ceramic-fiber-blanket_W0QQfnuZ1QQfsooZ1QQfsopZ3QQxpufuZ1

Doesn't seem to be that expensive to me.

I placed bids on the following items:

http://cgi.ebay.com/SAFE-Ceramic-Fiber-Blanket-1-8-dens-2300-degree_W0QQitemZ7613948691QQcategoryZ1267QQssPageN ameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/Refractory-coating-Rigidizer-for-Ceramic-Fiber-Blanket_W0QQitemZ8280897696QQcategoryZ3090QQssPage NameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


Gary

[OiltoDiesel]

Gary,
I'd really be interested in this. Could make my plant not only lighter, but a bit quicker and easier to get online. Got my tanks yesterday and hope to start welding in heating fins, etc. over the weekend. (If Honey Do's and Grandkids don't get in my way:D )
Joe


Joe - Check out the ebay link I left for OG

Gary

[OiltoDiesel]

Oh, OK thanks Ryan. I have always used the fire bricks but never the fiber.

Gary

[Robrogers]

Here is a web site with the Superwool prices.

http://www.thermalceramics.com/products/PriceBook/tableofcontents.asp#blanket

[i_stripe]

Joe - Check out the ebay link I left for OG

Gary

Looks good. If I'm reading things right, you can free form this stuff once you have added the Rigidizer, therfore eleminating the need to sew it in place, Right or wrong?

[OiltoDiesel]

Looks good. If I'm reading things right, you can free form this stuff once you have added the Rigidizer, therfore eleminating the need to sew it in place, Right or wrong?

It depends on how your form is built. The reason I have to use the ceramic buttons and wire to hold it in place is because I am using a 55 gal drum. I think it would be best to tie it into place but probably would work without tieing on soom forms.

I think the only thing the Rigidizer does is form a hard thin shell on the wool.

Gary